"failure to raise a human being

[litch]

I feel like there should be a crime: "failure to raise a human being" such that if you kid does something that shock the conscience (like those in that pack of predators that beat the bum to death on a lark) you have to spend the equivelent of a minor manslaughter charge in jail.

But really, there shouldn't be, we don't need to punish anyone any more in this society than we do now. We need a nanny state for the children in our society, for our own protection. Every child should be assessed as they grow and if they seem to be twisting into something sick we need to take corrective action to try and shape their behavior into something acceptable (and if they can't be reshaped, than simply controlled).

Comments

Nope, not going there

[charlayne.livejournal.com]

Because in these days and times, the ones calling the shots would pull all the "good" kids who are being raised by good, caring, yet Pagan parents and leave all the real 'cool' kids in the care of 'good Christian parents' who are taking these actions.

Look at it, when was the last time a Pagan-raised kid shot up a school, killed their parents and grandparents on the day of their graduation, or killed a bum for fun.

Punish the parents IF the kid does something but no nanny states, that opens the door too wide for judgement by those who are the least equipped to judge.

And...

[charlayne.livejournal.com]

I'm thinking of my grandkids now. Their fathers and mothers have NO problem letting them play Doom 3 or watching horror movies with them. Shooting Zombies or even the "bad" guys is nothing. My five-year-old grandson was just waiting for a chance to "hurt or kill the bad men" who broke into his apartment.

Are these kids candidates for future violence according to those who you might put into the place to assess them? Probably, according to the conventional 'wisdom' prevailent in today's uptight ultra-conservative society where zero-tolerance for DRAWING A PICTURE OF A GUN gets you suspended and put into alternative school for a whole year.

Nope, I don't agree at all.

Now, take the non-human dreg that beat the bum to death and let people beat the hell out of him, to within an inch of death, and let him then have to serve mankind in some sort of capacity where he has to help bums and those who are less fortunate (ie: if he was that damned bored, make him so busy he will never be bored again).

I think we cottle these darlings who do this WAY too much. Like what I believe of a child molester, if we catch them, if they are guilty (like we have DNA on them; thus catching them 'red handed'), we don't put them in jail for a few years and let them out to have to be on some "watch" list, we drag them out and execute them. Zero recidivisem. No more kids hurt because there are fewer and fewer pediphiles to pray on them.

But, then again, I would be told that's not too "wiccan" of a thought. Yeah, even I'm not perfect (grin).

Re: And...

[xeyeofhorusx.livejournal.com]

How do we coddle these darlings too much if we have zero-tolerance policies for scary drawings? You don't seem to have thought through this very carefully...

[pasketti.livejournal.com]

And who, pray tell, will make this assessment? And who will assess the assessors?

Sorry, I'm not buying into this one.

[delicatetbone.livejournal.com]

Oh come now, Plato had it ALL figured out!

Read the Republic lately?

[tekelili.livejournal.com]

Hrm, no. I turned out fine, despite my peculiarities. Had I been "corrected", this would be entirely different, I imagine. Such may have unleashed the more negative aspects of my personal dysfunctions. May have = would have.

[stickcow.livejournal.com]

Obviously you are not a parent. A child will turn out however they turn out, and how you try to raise them doesn't matter. They are their own person, how can you expect somebody else to be responsible for them?

[litch.livejournal.com]

how you try to raise them doesn't matter

I don't believe that (nor do I believe you do really), I think it has an effect, it may not determine what happens ultimately, but it does effect what happens ultimately.

But it's not just about raising, because the parent should have the most contact with the kid they should be resposible for warning society when they've spawned a danger.