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I have quite a bit of sympathy for the people who gripe about smoke-free laws. Even though I don't smoke cigarettes I was raised by smokers and it feels like an unwarranted intrusion on people's freedom. It's very hard to believe that someone simply smoking in the same airspace as you could really have all that deleterious effect. Then there was a study done about 5 years ago when Helena, Montana banned smoking in public and they found heart attacks fell by 60%.

There were a lot of problems with that study, it had a very small sample size, there were a number of potential cofactors, and it just didn't seem to make sense that there would be such a major difference.

Well, they did another study in Pueblo and using a much larger sample size over a longer period they found a similar 40% drop in heart attacks.Studies in Italy and Scotland have found drops as well (though they are more like 15%). So it looks like smoking in public really does have a major effect on the frequency of heart attacks.

It is something that really stands out about austin (which has a public smoking ban) when you go to other towns. It is odd to have the hostess ask you if you want smoking or non-smoking. And I suspect it is going to become more and more rare.

Date: 2009-01-02 03:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kaffee-spinne.livejournal.com
Smoking bans are causing the French cafes to fail. I read an article about the failing cafe scene in France and it just made me cry, and I don't even smoke...but it was all about how the young don't go and sit and drink coffee or alcohol or take long lunches or socialize in cafes anymore, everyone takes everything to go and just runs around with their mobile phones and blackberries. My prayer for 2009 is that we realize how much that is not Living.

Date: 2009-01-02 07:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] litch.livejournal.com
The article made it sound a lot more like it was the economy & changes in the parisian way of life rather than a smoking ban that was causing problems (especially considering the ban just started yesterday) for the cafes.

I think the essential problem for france is that the language the world educates, debates, and argues in is irrevocably becoming english. 300 years of gallic pride leaves a mighty big lump in the throat.

Date: 2009-01-02 03:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kaffee-spinne.livejournal.com
however what some groups have been doing in Portland, especially with the 'share-it square' idea is very inspiring, and would be cool to see in Austin.

http://www.streetfilms.org/archives/intersection-repair/

just to be fair

Date: 2009-01-02 06:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cosima-sf.livejournal.com
i would hang at places like that if i didn't have to breathe the smoke...

those youngins :)

Date: 2009-01-06 05:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pi3832.livejournal.com
Thank God we have the government to make our health decisions for us.

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